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  • Are you a beginner, intermediate or advanced lifter?

    The following are general guidelines, and not carved in stone rules.

    Are you a beginner, intermediate or advanced lifter?

    Mick Madden - March 30, 2012


    This is a commonly asked question. The reality is this…if you have to ask, then there’s a good chance you are a beginning lifter and should be using a beginner weightlifting routine.

    It doesn’t matter how many years you’ve been working out. If you haven’t added much muscle mass and are relatively weak, you’re a beginner. End of story. Keep in mind this is not an insult, but rather a fair and honest assessment that is meant to assist you in picking a proper workout.

    Here are some general guidelines that can help you determine your lifting level.


    Novice Lifter

    A novice lifter is a rank beginner. Novices have no idea what most exercises are, and have very poor exercise form. They lack stability on even the most basic of exercises.

    A novice has never build any muscle or strength, and is generally rather clueless about how to train and eat.


    Beginning Lifter

    A beginning lifter has been in the gym at least a few months and has taken the time to work on exercise form. They will no longer feel super shaky while under the bar on bench presses and squats, and have gained a basic understanding about what is a challenging weight for a given exercise.

    This does not mean they will know their limits or maxes. Novices and beginners should not be testing their max on any exercise.

    A beginner has built no substantial amount of muscle or strength. They generally bench press less than 135 pounds, squat less than 185 pounds and deadlift 225 pounds of less.

    A beginner can remain a beginner indefinitely. It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been training if what you’re doing isn’t producing results.


    Experienced Beginner

    An experienced beginner has taken time to practice and study proper form on the major exercises, and is fairly confident that their form is passable. They take exercise form correctly, and no longer have major form flaws such as using half squats or bench pressing with flared arms. While their form is certainly not perfect, it is better than 95% of the gym rats at any local gym.

    An experienced beginner has started to build strength and is generally lifting around a 185 pound bench press, 225 pound squat and 275 pound deadlift.


    Early Intermediate

    An early intermediate has noticed some increases in muscle size, and is making consistent progression on the majors lifts. They have achieved a good training rhythm, and are starting to learn which lifts come natural, and which lifts are more of a struggle. They are also starting to sense weaknesses, and may be making minor programming adjustments to address these weaknesses.

    Early intermediates are generally ready for more aggressive workouts, such as training 4 days per week using upper/lower style splits that are strength focused, or even 4 day bodybuilding style splits if they find they are making quality muscle gains.

    Early intermediates with the primary goal of muscle building who are yet to notice any substantial muscle gains should continue to train 2-3 days per week using fullbody style workouts. At some point while accumulating more strength they will notice their physiques starting to blossom or fill out. At this point they can consider adding another training day and changing approaches.

    An early intermediate is generally bench pressing 225 pounds, squatting 275 pounds and deadlifting 315 pounds.


    Intermediate Lifter

    An intermediate lifter has hit a good stride. Strength gains continue to remain consistent, and their physiques are filling our nicely with muscle mass. They are eating properly, listening to their bodies and and evolving their training, and constantly working to improve and master lifting form.
    Intermediate trainees can start to focus on slowly adding extra training volume. They may also require periodization to handle the stresses placed upon their bodies by frequent heavy lifting sessions.

    An intermediate lifter is generally bench pressing 275 pounds, squatting 345 pounds and deadlifting 405 pounds.


    Experienced Intermediate

    An experienced intermediate has reached 85 to 90% of their strength and muscle building potential. If they are training specifically for strength, they will be placing well at local powerlifting meets.

    If they are training for muscle size, people will know they “work out” just by looking at them. Fellow gym rats will be asking for their “magic secrets”, and they may even get accused every now and then of take performance enhancing drugs by naive lifters.

    An experienced intermediate lifter is able to train up to 4-5 times per week with a fair amount of volume. They require some form of periodization, deloading or fatigue management with their programming because of the weight they are moving in the gym.

    Experienced intermediate lifters know their major weaknesses and feel confident with setting up their own workouts,and with making workout adjustments. When they do not have the answers, they seek out help from more experienced lifters.

    Experienced intermediate lifters are the upper 5%, and can be considered the cream of the crop. They are the very few guys at local gyms who are moving big iron and sporting large arms. They are driven, dedicated and make no excuses. They find a way to succeed, despite the obstacles placed in their path.

    Progress has slowed dramatically, and success is now viewed as adding a couple pounds of muscle per year, or adding 25 to 50 pounds to a major lift per year.

    An experienced intermediate lifter is generally bench pressing at least 315 pounds, squatting at least 415 pounds and deadlifting at least 500 pounds.


    Advanced Lifters

    Very few lifters reach the advanced stage. Advanced lifters have faced very difficult challenges, and have learned to overcome these challenges by trial and error. They know their bodies and limits well, and are mentally tough.

    An advanced lifter is elite or near elite level in powerlifting, or near their natural genetic muscle building potential if a bodybuilder.
    I know from teaching hundreds of seminars that the guys who say they have “awesome technique” are usually the biggest disasters—their ego just doesn’t let them see it.
    - Dave Tate

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    Wat ik wel mis in het artikel is dat er geen lichaamsgewicht wordt gerelateerd aan de gewichten die getild worden in elke fase.
    I know from teaching hundreds of seminars that the guys who say they have “awesome technique” are usually the biggest disasters—their ego just doesn’t let them see it.
    - Dave Tate

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    • #3
      Ahh mooi weet ik wanneer ik mijn onderschrift kan veranderen
      "Aan****testosteron****hangen geen risico's want islichaamseigen****stof" -****Dexie****2013 ( het srs jaar)****

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      • #4
        Originally posted by inferno_0666 View Post
        Wat ik wel mis in het artikel is dat er geen lichaamsgewicht wordt gerelateerd aan de gewichten die getild worden in elke fase.
        Ja inderdaad

        maar ook dat je bepaalde `status ` bereikt bij een bepaald gewicht in Bp SQ en DL

        Is toch een beetje lullie als je bench iets achter loopt :P

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        • #5
          Die gewichten zijn maar richtlijnen, kijk eerder naar de beschrijving waar je jezelf wel in kunt vinden. En dan nog moet je het niet zo zwart- wit zien als in een geschreven artikel vind ik.
          "People laugh and call me lazy, while they twit around in their three-hour workout making zero progress. Sometimes, instead of what you do in the weight room, it's what you don't do that will lead to success."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FitnessBoer View Post
            Die gewichten zijn maar richtlijnen, kijk eerder naar de beschrijving waar je jezelf wel in kunt vinden.
            Dan nog, de richtlijnen kunnen nog altijd iets duidelijker. Er is nogal veschil tussen een persoon van 70kg met een vetpercentage van 12% die 120kg bankdrukt en een iemand die 90kg weegt met hetzelfde vetpercentage die hetzelfde bankdrukt, om maar wat te noemen.

            En dan nog moet je het niet zo zwart- wit zien als in een geschreven artikel vind ik.
            De auteur van het artikel maakt wel van begin af aan duidelijk dat het niet zwart-wit is en dat het om richtlijnen gaat.

            Originally posted by Mick Madden View Post
            The following are general guidelines, and not carved in stone rules.
            I know from teaching hundreds of seminars that the guys who say they have “awesome technique” are usually the biggest disasters—their ego just doesn’t let them see it.
            - Dave Tate

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            • #7
              A beginner has built no substantial amount of muscle or strength. They generally bench press less than 135 pounds, squat less than 185 pounds and deadlift 225 pounds of less.
              toch kan je er aardig wat uit afleiden.
              Een vrouw die 135pounds bench pressed.... zou ik zeker geen beginner meer noemen.
              Als je echter ook naar het eerste deel van de zin kijkt, zij zal waarschijnlijk al wel aardig wat kracht en misschien zelfs wat spiervolume hebben opgebouwd (als vrouw zijnde hé)
              ik zal nooit meer zeggen dat ik geen buikspieren heb

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              • #8
                Ik neem aan dat dit niet zozeer van toepassing is op bodybuilding maar eerder op het powerliften?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by El_Loco View Post
                  Ik neem aan dat dit niet zozeer van toepassing is op bodybuilding maar eerder op het powerliften?
                  Als je naar de gewichten kijkt wel ja, als je naar de beschrijving kijkt is het ook geschikt voor bodybuilding
                  BP:1x130 SQ:1x200 DL:1x225 @85kg

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