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    Een interessant artikel over cardio van de website van Layne Norton

    Ah yes cardio is quite possibly one of the most dreaded words in a bodybuilder’s vocabulary. We will happily push ourselves through gut wrenching weight training workouts, but the thought of cardio sends many bodybuilders scurrying for cover like cockroaches in a lit room. One reason being that most cardio is about as fun as watching clothes dry and more importantly, we are told often that cardio can cause muscle loss. This has led many people to suggest completely abolishing cardio from the bodybuilder’s arsenal. For an ectomorphic bodybuilder in the offseason, that is probably realistic and in many cases, advisable. But in the case of people with slower metabolisms this may not be as feasible. So how can we properly implement cardio without it killing your gains?

    The practice of combining resistance training with cardio is scientifically termed as ‘concurrent training.’ While concurrent training has been shown to be superior to endurance training alone for enhancing muscle mass and strength (duh), it has been shown to significantly hamper optimal strength and hypertrophy when compared to resistance training alone. Several studies have demonstrated that optimal gains in muscle mass and strength are obtained by strength training alone compared to combining strength training with endurance training (1). However, a recent review of the scientific literature on concurrent training conducted by Dr. Jacob Wilson of the University of Tampa and several of his collegues identified some interesting variables that can affect the way in which your cardio training affects your strength, hypertrophy, and body composition responses to resistance training.

    The first variable that was examined was the modality of cardio training. That is, did the type of cardio performed actually make a difference on strength and hypertrophy responses to training? What he found may shock you. The type of cardio performed made a HUGE difference in terms of proper strength and hypertrophy development in response to resistance training. Endurance running or walking caused significantly more decrements in the development of optimal hypertrophy compared with cycling (1). This is also in accordance with a study that compared cycling with incline walking on a treadmill (a very common cardio practice in bodybuilding community) and found that cycling was significantly better for achieving hypertrophy when combined with resistance training compared to incline treadmill walking (2). The researchers concluded that the differences observed here were likely due to the fact cycling requires more hip flexion and multi-joint activation of muscles involved in exercises like squats and leg presses compared to endurance running and walking which are not similar movements to any leg exercises that produce muscular hypertrophy. It should be noted that sprinting is quite a bit different than endurance running and is superior for muscle mass due to the hip flexion required during sprinting, making it more similar to exercises like squats & leg presses vs. jogging.


    Indeed, the analysis concluded that the effects of cardio on strength and hypertrophy are body part specific. That is, lower body cardio did not have negative effects on hypertrophy and strength development of upper body parts. Additionally, it has been demonstrated that rowers who added high intensity resistance training (with rows) to their protocol had similar strength and hypertrophy gains compared to a group of non-rowers who followed the same resistance training protocol (3). Therefore, in terms of the best types of cardio, it appears that one should use cardio equipment that most closely mimics movements performed during resistance training. Additionally, while long distance running and walking result in strength and hypertrophy decrements, sprinting does not, most likely due to the fact that sprinting requires significant hip flexion and is more similar to multi-joint leg exercises.

    The other major variables the researchers examined were the intensity and duration of cardio work and how it affects strength and hypertrophy when combined with resistance training. They essentially demonstrated that the longer the bout of cardio was, the greater the impairment of strength and hypertrophy. Interestingly, they found that short, high intensity bouts of cardio like repeated sprinting actually had no negative impact on strength and hypertrophy development. This is most likely due to the increased hip flexion as discussed above and because high intensity sprinting or cycling causes your muscles to make high velocity contractions, activating fast twitch muscle fibers compared to endurance cardio work which most likely will not activate the large fast twitch muscle fibers. Now I know some of the ‘broscientists’ out there will pout and stomp their feet claiming that high intensity cardio causes muscle loss. Since these guys don’t like real science, I’ll keep it simple for them. Go down to a track meet and check out the legs on a sprinter and then check out the legs on an endurance runner or power walker and tell me which type of cardio is better for optimizing muscle.


    Perhaps even more interesting was that further analysis of the literature on cardio demonstrated that not only was short duration, high intensity cardio better for strength and hypertrophy, it was also superior for fat loss (1). I know the broscientists will continue to spout the value of low intensity cardio to maximize the percentage of calories burned from fat, but to quote the researchers “maximizing intensities, which are ideal for fat metabolism during an exercise, may not be ideal for maximizing fat metabolism in the long term. Research indicates that increases in metabolic rate after exercise increases exponentially with increasing intensity.” So while the broscientists slave away walking their hard earned gains off for hours on a treadmill, I’ll be doing high intensity sprinting or cycling, building more muscle!


    References

    1) Wilson JM, Marin PJ, Rhea MR, Wilson SM, Loenneke JP, Anderson JC. Concurrent training: A Meta-Analysis examining interference of aerobic and resistance exercises. J Strength Cond Res. 2011 (in press).

    2) Gergley JC. Comparison of two lower-body modes of endurance training on lower-body strength development while concurrently training. J Strength Cond Res. 2009 (3):979-87.

    3) Bell, GJ, Petersen, SR, Wessel, J, Bagnall, K, and Quinney, HA. Physiological adaptations to concurrent endurance training and low velocity resistance training. Int J Sports Med 12: 384–390, 1991
    BP:1x130 SQ:1x200 DL:1x225 @85kg

  • #2
    Laatst nog gepost dat ik het ook zo deed voor vetverlies. Probleem is alleen je kan niet zomaar iedereen volle bak laten sprinten. Oh en 20 minuten hiit is geen sprinten, zwaar wss maar geen sprinten. Als je 20 min hiit doet, dan doe je wat fout. (Pescatore, 2014 )

    Kwam weer hele discussie zonder argumenten van alleen "ik doe het zo en het gaat goed". Dus succes met dit, ik hou me erbuiten
    Last edited by pescatore; 18-05-2014, 17:16.
    Begeleiding nodig bij voeding en /of training?

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    • #3
      20 min hiit?

      Als je het goed doet, staan je longen na 4 minuten tabata al in brand.
      20 minuten is denk ik ook vaak een misverstand: als je de uitleg van hitt doorleest, is 20 minuten vaak incl warming up en cooling down.
      Anders kan ik het me ook echt niet voorstellen.
      DIVIDE ET IMPERA

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      • #4
        1 goede sprint en ben je kapot ja.

        Of ligt aan mij
        Eating more food than your body can use to build muscle will simply lead to more body fat being gained.

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        • #5
          hiit moet je ook opbouwen
          Remember the pain you feel today, will be the strenght you feel tomorrow!!!!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by brillant View Post
            hiit moet je ook opbouwen
            Jawel, maar een sprint van 20 minuten gaat het nooit worden.
            I know from teaching hundreds of seminars that the guys who say they have “awesome technique” are usually the biggest disasters—their ego just doesn’t let them see it.
            - Dave Tate

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            • #7
              Het artikel gaat niet over hiit. Het gaat er over dat uren op de loopband niet efficiënt en saai is
              BP:1x130 SQ:1x200 DL:1x225 @85kg

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              • #8
                Als je 20 min HITT doet is het waarschijnlijk als volgt opgebouwd: 5 min opwarmen (rustig rennen), 30 sec tot failure sprinten of dergelijke, 90 sec rust (rustig rennen) en dat x 6, 5 min cooling down (rustig rennen).

                Zo kan je het ook toepassen op de treadmill of roeien etc etc.

                De 30 sec voluit en 90 sec rust kan je naarmate je vordert aanpassen naar bijvoorbeeld 60 sec voluit en 60 sec rust. Of je doet het 7x etc.

                Verder ben ik van mening dat je wel kan groeien met roeien. Daarnaast helpt het je fit zijn waardoor je prestaties mbt kracht weer beter zijn.

                En inderdaad uren op de loopband is alleen goed voor je uithoudingsvermogen en gezondheid. Niet voor massa.

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                • #9
                  Bedankt Guus. Nuttige info.
                  Skeggǫld, Skálmǫld, Skildir ro Klofnir.

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                  • #10
                    Mooi samengevat artikel.
                    I'm not special, but not the same as you.
                    Because I do things you will never do.
                    SQ 1x170 - BP 1x107.5 - DL 1x200 (bw: 84.5 kg)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pescatore View Post
                      Laatst nog gepost dat ik het ook zo deed voor vetverlies. Probleem is alleen je kan niet zomaar iedereen volle bak laten sprinten. Oh en 20 minuten hiit is geen sprinten, zwaar wss maar geen sprinten. Als je 20 min hiit doet, dan doe je wat fout. (Pescatore, 2014 )

                      Kwam weer hele discussie zonder argumenten van alleen "ik doe het zo en het gaat goed". Dus succes met dit, ik hou me erbuiten
                      He pesc ik ben meer een sprinter dan duursporter heb je toevallig een link of iets waar je een goeie opbouw vind voor sprinten e.d. icm krachtsport.
                      Goed gejat is het halve werk!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by east1977 View Post
                        He pesc ik ben meer een sprinter dan duursporter heb je toevallig een link of iets waar je een goeie opbouw vind voor sprinten e.d. icm krachtsport.
                        http://forum.bodynet.nl/trainingssch...en-waarom.html
                        Begeleiding nodig bij voeding en /of training?

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                        • #13
                          Thanks man
                          Goed gejat is het halve werk!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by east1977 View Post
                            Thanks man
                            Np, op Nocer na ben ik het meest nutteloze BN lid, weet je toch
                            Begeleiding nodig bij voeding en /of training?

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                            • #15

                              Deed me direct hieraan denken

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