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  • Ik kan nu wel alle afleveringen kijken Gisteren nog die laatste in cancun gekeken. Echt jammer dat Jay weg is want nu is het niet meer veel aan. Ik vond hem en Gaz en leipste
    BP:1x130 SQ:1x200 DL:1x225 @85kg

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      Mind is everything.

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      • Goed filmpje! Dayum!

        Iemand wingman tips? Ben daar echt kk slecht in.
        "Aan****testosteron****hangen geen risico's want islichaamseigen****stof" -****Dexie****2013 ( het srs jaar)****

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        • Lol wingman tips

          How to Be a Wingman -- 10 Surprising Rules

          What if I told you that the most important rule of being a good wingman was in not stealing your buddy's thunder? And what if I told you the second most important rule was allowing time for girls to get comfortable with your pal before you jump in?
          Well, in fact, those are the first and second most important rules. And there are a lot more where those came from. I call these rules "surprising" because most of them are going to go against the grain of what you've probably heard elsewhere.
          But I think you'll like 'em anyway.
          1. Don't Steal Your Pal's Thunder. When I first started meeting women with wingmen (I worked on meeting girls for a year and a half solo before ever rolling out with a buddy), I was both stunned and annoyed at how consistently other guys I'd roll with would come in a lot higher energy than me, take center stage, and then crash and burn and cost both of us our girls. I eventually figured out how to deal with situations like that, and I'm the better for having learned to do so, but it was poor wingmanship by my pals when we started out.

            It's vital that you don't steal your buddy's thunder. Having met a pretty large number of groups of people throughout my career as a social artist, I've picked up a thing or two about how groups respond to that kind of thing, and what I've noticed is groups tend to treat the guy who opens them as the de facto "leader" of his group, and that any attempt by his wingman to take center stage or in any way tease or rib his friend a little too hard gets viewed as dissension among the ranks, and you both get viewed as lesser men.

            If you want to maintain the respect of the people in the groups you meet, letting the guy who opened maintain the "lead" role in the interaction is a crucial part of how to be a wingman.
          2. Give Girls Time to Get Comfortable Before Joining In. Contrary to the whole "jump in before 2 minutes" philosophy, I'm a believer in the "chill on the outside as long as it takes for your buddy to get the girls warmed up to you" school of thought.

            Think of it like this: if two men are pursuing two girls, those girls are going to feel a lot more pressured and a lot less comfortable than if one man is pursuing them, and one is minding his own business five or ten feet away.

            When you let your buddy get the girls comfortable while you keep a low profile (or when he lets you get them comfortable while he stays out of the picture), you give them time to get used to the presence of this new man, without their attention being split and disoriented by two new men. I've seen it done both ways a number of times and trust me, it works better when one guy wins them over -- not two.
          3. Resist the Urge to Oversell Your Wingman. There's some old advice floating around that you ought to talk about what an amazing guy your friend is. Don't listen to it.

            Trying to beef up your friend's credentials comes across the same way to women as does trying to beef up your own credentials. Women aren't fools; they know that the buddy you're bringing in is there to help your odds with them. And they know that anything you say about him is to do so, too. Building him up has the same effect as talking about your own value; it comes across like you're trying to showboat, and it comes across as chasing.

            There's another strike against it, too: when you start talking about your pal before they've met him, and then you build him up to them, and then he shows up, it all ends up sounding rather... "planned out."

            And women hate feeling like any part of an interaction was logically, carefully "planned out." They want everything to feel natural, spur-of-the-moment, and they want to feel like this isn't something you do with every girl... just them. Most people don't mention their friends until their friends have entered the picture; I'd recommend you do the same.
          4. Bring Your Buddy In When Both Girls Are Warm. If you're the one who's opened, it's your responsibility to bring your wingman in -- not his responsibility to jump in. If you're already on the inside, he shouldn't need to go open the girls himself and carve his way in -- that's poor wingmanship on your part.

            This is one of the biggest mistakes I see guys making: one guy walks up and starts talking to girls, and the other guy kind of hovers around them for a minute or two, then goes up on his own and opens a girl on his own or introduces himself. This ends up coming across to the girls like two strangers walking up to meet them -- not like one stranger (the first of you), and one friend-of-a-friend (the second of you, if he's properly introduced).

            Again, it also lends itself to feeling quite planned out and calculated if one friend goes in first, the other hovers around, and then he goes in too, unless the guy on the outside does it really smooth. Cut the necessity for good acting chops out and just have the man on the inside welcome in the man on the outside. Sometimes the girls will ask for this, too ("Why's your friend standing over there?"), which makes it even easier (you can invite him over and set a chase frame by saying, "These girls were asking for you, brother!").
          5. Address Your Friend Rather Than the Girls. This is another big one that most guys get wrong. Most guys say, "Ladies, I'd like you to meet..." as if the women are the ones who need to be impressed by your friend.

            Instead, you're going to say, "George, I'd like you to meet these two lovely young ladies I've just gotten to know..." because it isn't the girls you're trying to impress. It's your friend you're trying to impress... with the girls. That's what's communicated to them at the outset, and they automatically feel he's more important; and your friend gets this feeling too -- it's almost like you've already placed a chase frame on the girls and they're now pursuing your buddy from the very beginning.
          6. Give Your Buddy a Proper Introduction. This doesn't mean build him up, but it does mean you give both him and the girls you're introducing him to things to start talking about right away.

            So, you might start by saying:
            "Christie here's a nurse who works over at Mainline Hospital. She paints pictures of landscapes and wants to run away to Thailand to go live for a year sooner or later, and not tell anyone.

            Christie, my buddy Zach's been a painter since he was finger-painting at 3 years old, but his paintings today look a little better than that. He was just in Thailand a few years ago; he can probably even give you some recommendations."
            Give them both commonalities wherever possible (as in the example above), and do your best to make those commonalities in areas where your friend comes across as more experienced than the girl. I won't go into why in this post, but women tend to be more attracted to men who are more experienced than them in the things they're interested in than they are to men who are less experienced or ignorant of those things.

            Having stuff to riff off of means your buddy and his girl jump instantly into solid conversation and skip the awkward getting-to-know-you fumbling in the dark trying to reach the hook point. It's one of the best things you can do for a wingman of yours.
          7. Stay Paired Up. There's nothing worse than one wingman dropping the conversation with his girl to be social and get to know the other girl and talk with his friend a little. Because, what happens is, now his girl is out in limbo, with no one talking to her, slipping closer and closer to auto-rejection each passing second, while he disrupts his pal's conversation and potentially even ruins it.

            If your girl likes you, and your buddy's girl likes him, trust that there's no need for you to "be social" and win over the other girl. She's going to be so thrilled that she found a guy and her girlfriend is happy too that she isn't going to sacrifice what she wants to stop her friend from having what she wants. It just doesn't happen.

            Note: if there are more than two girls (e.g., if you and your wingman are talking to a group of three girls), generally speaking, the more experienced / socially adept of the two of you should take two of the girls and let the other focus on one. Having the more adept of the two of you handle both girls makes it more likely the girls stick around and there's a good outcome for both of you.
          8. Move Together. Just like moving girls within a few minutes is critically important when you're on your own, it's just as necessary when you're winging a friend. Within 10 minutes or so of meeting girls with your wingman, look for ways to move them. See if you can get them to join you for a coffee, an ice cream, or a water, or at least move them to another part of the venue. Moving them gets commitment and buy-in, and you vastly up your odds of accomplishing something with women later on in the day or night when you move them early on first.
          9. Extract Together. It's usually good practice to pull your girls together. Both of them will be more comfortable that way. Try and sort your logistics out before going out with a friend -- will you go to his place or yours? When you go for the pull, there are two techniques you can employ:

            A) Address your girl first. If your girl is very much into you, whisper to her that the four of you should get a nightcap or go hang out together or go to an after party. Once she's agreed, announce it to the group, and she'll likely chime in in support of the idea, making it more likely her friend agrees too.

            B) Address the group first. If your girl is less into you, and your buddy's girl is more into him, address the group (and, more specifically, your pal's girl). "What say we all go chill and have a few quiet drinks to end the night?" you can ask, spending most of your time looking at her as you do so. Because she likes your friend, she's likely to support the idea, and may very well encourage your girl to come along even if she was previously reluctant.
          10. Get Alone. Once the four of you have arrived somewhere private, it's time to make something happen. Unless the girls (and you!) are really open, nothing's likely to happen while you're all in the same room.

            That means you have to get alone.

            "Come on, I want to show you something," is a great line to tell your girl in front of the other two. "We'll be right back," you say to them, and take your girl off. Take her to another bedroom, or even a bathroom if you're in a tiny apartment and there's nowhere else to go, and just get to it as quickly as you can. If you waste time when its two guys and two girls in an apartment together, something always goes wrong -- you have to move even faster than when it's just you and a girl alone together.



          Mind is everything.

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          • Ik hou van jou. Gisteren was awkward as fuck. Sta je dan met een chick die je niet moet.
            "Aan****testosteron****hangen geen risico's want islichaamseigen****stof" -****Dexie****2013 ( het srs jaar)****

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            • Geen school enzo? Verdomme ik wil graag uit.

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              • Originally posted by Nocerino View Post
                Ik hou van jou. Gisteren was awkward as fuck. Sta je dan met een chick die je niet moet.
                Speel je hard to get
                "GTL. Gym, tan, laundry. That's what it's all about."

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                • Brah vrijdagavond. Who is gonna get smashed tonight??
                  "Aan****testosteron****hangen geen risico's want islichaamseigen****stof" -****Dexie****2013 ( het srs jaar)****

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                  • Carb loaden, vanavond vlamme!
                    Mind is everything.

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                    • Uitkijken voor de landmijnen
                      "GTL. Gym, tan, laundry. That's what it's all about."

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                      • Morgen 16 graden! Ff baard wegscheren en goan met die banaan!
                        "Aan****testosteron****hangen geen risico's want islichaamseigen****stof" -****Dexie****2013 ( het srs jaar)****

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                        • Mèh, mij is het nog te koud om te zwemmen. Dan verdwijnen alle adertjes van mijn armen.
                          Één bodybuilder kan meer eieren eten dan tien kippen kunnen leggen.

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                          • Het warme weer komt er weer aan dus het is tijd om shredded te worden brahs!!
                            BP:1x130 SQ:1x200 DL:1x225 @85kg

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                            • Good luck Guusd
                              Geen woorden, maar daden.

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                              • Originally posted by Guusd View Post
                                Het warme weer komt er weer aan dus het is tijd om shredded te worden brahs!!
                                Ik gaat lekker door :P All the way
                                If the pain gets too much, Just think. The universe is so large and your pain is almost non-exsistant in comparison. Therefore your pain does not exist

                                Mijn log http://forum.bodynet.nl/trainingslogjes/58191-ghosts-log.html

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